Lobbyists<\/strong>: Good afternoon, Ana. Thank you for taking the time for this conversation. To start with, tell us \u2013 who is Ana?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Good afternoon, and thank you. Ana is a therapist, coach, educator, and founder of an Academy whose mission is to help people free themselves from what no longer serves them \u2013 inherited patterns, beliefs, family loyalties \u2013 and to reach that version of themselves they deeply know they can become. My work is a blend of therapeutic depth, a neuro-somatic approach, coaching tools, and an authentic life story that began where many women have been \u2013 in roles that belonged to others, with a suppressed sense of self.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: What do you think creates those patterns?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: I\u2019m referring to all those invisible forces that shape us before we even know we exist as individuals \u2013 genetics, early experiences, emotional messages we “inhaled” from our parents, prohibitions, unspoken family system rules. Many of those forces aren\u2019t “bad,” but they do limit us if we don\u2019t become aware of them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: How would you define the purpose of your work?<\/p>\n\n\n\n My work is here to shine a light on those influences, to examine them closely, and to liberate what is truly authentic \u2013 our inner compass.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: So, you believe that anyone can find their own path, regardless of their heritage?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Not only can they \u2013 I believe it\u2019s their task. To recognize where the story of their ancestors ends and where their own voice begins. To stop being a replicator of the family and become the creator of their own path. Authenticity isn\u2019t a whim \u2013 it\u2019s a soul\u2019s inner need.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: Ana, can you share with us how your journey actually began? How did you enter the world of coaching and therapy?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Everything I do today, I first had to do in my own life. I didn\u2019t enter this work \u201cfrom above\u201d \u2013 from theory. I entered it out of personal necessity. The need to understand why I carry a weight that isn\u2019t mine. Why I struggle to be \u201cenough\u201d in roles I didn\u2019t choose. I changed careers three times \u2013 each time trying to be what was expected of me. And each time, I felt more empty.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: Three times? Why did you do that?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: The first two careers were, as I can now clearly say, an attempt to gain parental approval. I was unconsciously living out their unfulfilled dreams. I was the “good girl,” successful, accepted \u2013 but that wasn\u2019t truly me. It was a projection others had placed on me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: When did the turning point happen?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: When I felt an inner disconnect \u2013 as if I were physically separated from my real life. That\u2019s when I began a journey of deep personal work. Education, therapy, intense self-exploration \u2013 none of it was a \u201cself-development luxury,\u201d it was an inner necessity. That\u2019s when I began what I call \u201creclaiming\u201d myself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: What do you mean by \u201creclaiming\u201d?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Reclaiming myself from the family script. In my family tree, success wasn\u2019t allowed. Love was tied to sacrifice. Until then, I had played the role of the daughter who doesn\u2019t stand out. But then I started tearing through those invisible threads that kept me loyal. And that\u2019s when I met myself for the first time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: I suppose it wasn\u2019t easy\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Of course not. The family system \u2013 like any system \u2013 resists change. Change threatens stability, even if that stability is painful. There were moments of resistance, crisis, retreat. But beyond that \u2013 freedom. Immense freedom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: And that\u2019s when you realized you wanted to help others?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Yes, because I realized I wasn\u2019t alone in this story. Hundreds, thousands of women who come into my work carry the same inner splits. And that\u2019s when I stopped waiting to be \u201chealed enough\u201d to begin. I started offering support while continuing to grow myself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: Ana, you mentioned that before becoming a therapist and coach, you had two completely different careers. What were they?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Yes, my journey truly began far from the therapy room. My first profession was in design \u2013 I completed two university degrees, one in Florence and the other in Belgrade, and I worked in five different fields of design. I was diligent, dedicated, and genuinely in love with what I was creating. But at some point, I realized that I had, unknowingly, been living out my mother\u2019s unfulfilled dream, as she never had the opportunity to express herself through art. I was the one carrying her potential, her unrealized impulse \u2013 and until I became aware of that, I couldn\u2019t distinguish what was truly mine from what was inherited.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: What made you return to Serbia, despite the career opportunities in Italy?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: I returned at my mother\u2019s urging, who believed I would be \u201csafer\u201d in Serbia. That return left a deep mark on me \u2013 it felt like I had cut off contact with my dream. Only later did I realize it hadn\u2019t been solely my decision. It was the decision of a child trying to fulfill her parents\u2019 expectations. I was an adult, but inside I was still seeking their approval.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: And the second profession?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: The second profession was in the corporate sector. After a very painful divorce and a failed entrepreneurial attempt, I returned to Serbia once again \u2013 and got a job at a large insurance company. Success came quickly. I was recognized as one of the fastest-growing team members in all of Europe. But underneath it all, there was an emptiness in me. Success without identity. I was serving the system, but not myself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: Just to clarify, during your time as an entrepreneur \u2013 were you already working as a therapist, or was it something else?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: No, I wasn\u2019t a therapist yet. I had my own design studio and worked in various creative fields. I was an artist, not an entrepreneur \u2013 and that was my challenge. I didn\u2019t know how to structure a business because I was driven by passion, not strategy. Everything collapsed during the global financial crisis. That was my first major fall \u2013 and my first major insight.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: How did you experience that fall?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: At that time, I didn\u2019t even realize it was a fall. I was simply confused. I had talent, I worked day and night, but without clear inner direction. When everything collapsed, I had to look \u2013 not outward, but inward. And that\u2019s when my first serious encounter with myself began.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: And then you moved into the corporate sector?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Yes. I entered a completely different world \u2013 structure, goals, teams, hierarchy. Success came quickly, but I didn\u2019t feel any sense of meaning. I was a single mother, exhausted, empty, yet on the outside \u2013 a woman who seemed to have everything under control. That\u2019s often the case with the women who come to me \u2013 outwardly they function, but inwardly they are not truly alive.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: When did you start to recognize those patterns and begin freeing yourself from them?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Around 2007, I felt I could no longer live by the old patterns. I started attending trainings, going to therapy, and doing deep inner work. I began uncovering family shadows and destructive loyalties. I started to understand why I couldn\u2019t stay where I felt happy \u2013 and why I always returned to where pain awaited me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: When did that become your main profession?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: In the beginning, I was learning out of a need to save myself. I didn\u2019t have the ambition to become a therapist \u2013 I had the need to survive. But as I walked that path, I felt I was returning to myself. And when I finally began working with clients, I knew: this is my path.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: What does your work look like today?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Today, I work with women who, just like I once was, were taught to be good, strong, self-sacrificing \u2013 yet deep down they are tired, overwhelmed, and lost. These are women who have taken on family scripts, roles they never chose, trying to meet others\u2019 expectations, unconsciously believing they have no right to live an authentic life. My work is based on showing them that not only do they have the right \u2013 they also have the strength to build it. That even if no one before them in the family ever knew happiness, success, emotional freedom, or abundance \u2013 they can be the first to choose it. My job is to support them as they walk that path alone, often for the first time in their family line.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: At Ana Rankovi\u0107 Academy, I am currently developing one of the most comprehensive personal development projects in the Balkans \u2013 an educational membership platform that brings together women from across the region through expert-led masterclasses, themed monthly guides, workbooks, guided processes, and deep mentorship. We address topics related to identity, emotions, trauma, family patterns, relationships with parents, money, self-confidence, habits, partnerships, and the inner voice. Every part of the program is carefully designed not just to provide knowledge \u2013 but also tools, support, and continuity. This is not just another online course. It is a safe space where women stop merely surviving \u2013 and start changing from within.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: Have you ever asked yourself \u2013 not just whether you can<\/em> do something, but whether it\u2019s even right<\/em> to do it? Whether what you’re doing is truly just?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Of course. That question accompanies every woman who decides to break the chain. Because when you start to change, you don\u2019t just feel fear \u2013 you also feel guilt. Our inner child, the part of us that sought love and belonging, protests. Because change carries risk \u2013 the risk of no longer being accepted, of being rejected by the system we come from. And the need to belong is the deepest human need. That\u2019s why so many women unconsciously sabotage their own transformation. Not because they don\u2019t know how to change, but because they\u2019re afraid they\u2019ll be alone if they truly become themselves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: How does that inner system show up?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: That inner system expresses itself through what we call inner voices \u2013 they\u2019re not just thoughts, but deep, ingrained narratives. The voice of a great-grandmother who lived in scarcity. The voice of a mother who was afraid to be happy. The voice of a father who didn\u2019t know how to show emotion. And all those voices become part of us. They say: \u201cDon\u2019t rock the boat,\u201d \u201cBe grateful and stay quiet,\u201d \u201cDon\u2019t ask for too much.\u201d My work isn\u2019t to silence those voices. My work is to approach them \u2013 with understanding, but also with boundaries. To say: \u201cThank you for protecting me, but now I choose differently.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: How do you approach that inner gap in your work?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: By not skipping over it. Many methods today offer quick fixes, bypass pain, and rationalize the process. I don\u2019t believe in cognitive shortcuts. I believe in the encounter \u2013 with yourself, with your body, with your emotions, with all the parts that make you whole. That gap between who we are and who we want to become \u2013 that is the field where transformation happens. But you must have the courage to step into that field, to face everything you\u2019ve been avoiding for years. And that is where healing begins.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: I approach them with respect. These parts \u2013 the saboteurs, the wounded child, the loyalties to family stories \u2013 they are not our enemies. They are guardians. And they are not conquered through struggle, but through connection. My work is deeply phenomenological and somatic \u2013 we work with the body, with memory, with voices, with symbols. We don\u2019t erase anything. We liberate, integrate, and return power to the self.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: What does it mean to \u201cliberate\u201d those parts?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: It means breaking unconscious vows and prohibitions. It\u2019s like finally clearing out a room inside you that has been closed for years, getting rid of everything that no longer belongs. But not forcefully \u2013 with awareness. What isn\u2019t yours has to \u201ccrumble away\u201d so that what truly is can move in. And that is a process \u2013 precise, sacred, and deeply personal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: What happens when that space is cleared?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: That\u2019s when freedom comes \u2013 not just as a feeling, but as a possibility. You start to feel what really matters to you, to recognize your needs, to make decisions that are truly your own. And most importantly \u2013 you stop recreating the past over and over again. You begin to create a new reality, with new patterns, relationships, habits. But that takes maturity. Because you must allow yourself to say: \u201cThat\u2019s no longer who I am.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: Once we become aware of them \u2013 what comes next?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Then we can let them go. The loyalties, the roles, the masks \u2013 all that was invisible becomes clear. And then you stop being a copy of your family tree. You become a new tree. And that\u2019s where authentic life begins.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: What is the ultimate goal?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: To finally breathe within ourselves. To allow our authentic potentials \u2013 love, success, expression, body, voice \u2013 to take up space. And not to be confused in that space, but to know: \u201cThis is me. And this is my right to live.\u201d To allow ourselves to be the \u201cblack swan.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: Do you think it was actually your genetics that gave you the strength to confront all these cultural patterns?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: I absolutely believe that part of our strength comes from genetics\u2014not only from what limits us, but also from what supports us. In our family tree, we don\u2019t inherit only trauma and restrictions, but also talents, visions, resilience, the strength of ancestors who survived the impossible. Maybe some women before me had to stay silent, to endure, to sacrifice themselves\u2014but even their silence left me the space to speak. In each of us, there is a healthy root. My work is based on recognizing both: what is poisoned and what is alive. Not to deny anything, but to choose what we want to nurture.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: You also mention something you call the \u201cblack swan in economics.\u201d What exactly do you mean by that?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: A \u201cblack swan\u201d is a term from economics that refers to an unpredictable event that changes everything\u2014like a pandemic. But I also use that term as a symbol for inner transformation. Being a \u201cblack swan\u201d in your family means being the first to change the rules. The first to divorce not because of drama, but for freedom. The first to work not just to survive, but to create. The first to earn the kind of money no one before them could even imagine. That\u2019s a huge step. And it\u2019s not always celebrated. Because when you change the rules, your system sees it as a threat. But that\u2019s exactly where your history begins.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: And what most often blocks us from doing that?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Fear\u2014not just our personal fear, but collective, inherited fear. Family history often carries deeply rooted messages like: \u201cThose who had money met a bad end,\u201d \u201cIf you stand out, you\u2019ll be rejected,\u201d \u201cA woman must sacrifice herself.\u201d And so we, even when we have the capacity, the ideas, the opportunities\u2014unconsciously sabotage ourselves to avoid \u2018suffering\u2019 the same fate as our ancestors. I myself, for example, unconsciously repeated the fate of my parents: I created a lot, and then lost it all. That was loyalty. Until I became aware of it\u2014and broke the pattern.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: How can that be overcome?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Through deep inner work. Not just mentally, but through the body, through emotions, through the systems that shape us. When you realize that the fear isn\u2019t yours\u2014that it came before you, that it belongs to someone in your lineage\u2014then you can gently return it to where it belongs. You can say: \u201cThank you, but now I choose differently.\u201d And then you no longer have to carry a shield in a time and place where it\u2019s time to create.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: As a rule, people often make radical life changes only after facing major tragedies. Do we really have to hit rock bottom for deep transformation to happen?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Not everyone has to hit rock bottom\u2014but most of us do. The problem is that most people live in what I call \u201cthe swamp\u201d \u2013 it\u2019s not terrible, but it\u2019s not good either. So they don\u2019t initiate change. Only when we reach a point where the old ways are suffocating us, where we feel there\u2019s no way out\u2014that\u2019s when the strength to move forward awakens in us. I call that moment the \u201cinner push.\u201d It\u2019s the moment when you don\u2019t know what lies ahead, but you know you can\u2019t go back. And that\u2019s the beginning of true transformation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: Why do we drift so far from ourselves over the course of life?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Because we\u2019re taught to from an early age. We\u2019re taught to be obedient, good, quiet. We\u2019re taught that emotions aren\u2019t safe, that our bodies don\u2019t belong to us, that our needs should be postponed. And little by little, we move away from our center. We enter relationships where we repeat family wounds, we live lives that aren\u2019t truly ours. And then one day, we no longer know who we are. My work begins right there\u2014when a woman says, \u201cI don\u2019t know where I am anymore. But I know I can\u2019t go on like this.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: What does that moment of no return look like?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: It\u2019s a moment of clarity. There\u2019s no more self-deception. No more rationalization. Just a clear truth: \u201cThis is no longer me. And I don\u2019t want to be this person.\u201d In my life, it was the moment I told myself, \u201cWhere I come from, I was already dead. There\u2019s nothing left for me there.\u201d And that\u2019s when, for the first time, I chose life\u2014not safety, not the familiar\u2014but life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: Can we compare this path of transformation to something universally recognizable?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Absolutely\u2014it\u2019s what Jung describes as the archetypal journey of individuation, and what Joseph Campbell later systematized as \u201cThe Hero\u2019s Journey\u201d in his famous work The Hero with a Thousand Faces<\/em>. It\u2019s an epic narrative, a spiritual and psychological journey that exists in all mythologies around the world. The hero leaves the known for the unknown, faces dragons\u2014both external and internal\u2014and discovers a treasure that could only be found by taking the journey. Change is always an initiation. You have to go through chaos to find meaning. And we don\u2019t do it to become \u201cbetter,\u201d but to finally become\u2014ourselves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: Unfortunately, we\u2019re nearing the end of our conversation, but there\u2019s still one important question left. How would you translate your personal experience into a broader societal change?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Thank you for that question, because I deeply believe that personal transformation is never just personal. When a person truly returns to themselves, they transform everything around them\u2014their relationships, family, team, community. What applies to an individual also applies to society. Our internal images of ourselves, of others, of money, of love\u2014they are also reflections of the collective unconscious. Everything we haven\u2019t resolved within the family system, we carry in our bodies, in our psyche, and we also pass it on\u2014through our behaviors, choices, and the structures we build.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: Can you explain that with a specific example?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Of course. Let\u2019s take war trauma. Even if someone hasn\u2019t directly experienced war, if their parents or grandparents lived through loss, escape, fear\u2014that trauma is passed down. Children and grandchildren carry the consequences\u2014through anxiety, autoimmune diseases, patterns of self-sabotage. Why? Because trauma that isn\u2019t acknowledged\u2014stays in the system. Only when someone in the family dares to look at it, to name it, to say: \u201cThis happened\u201d\u2014only then can the system begin to heal. The same is true for the collective. Until we shed light on what was\u2014historically, culturally, emotionally\u2014we will continue to repeat the same patterns, just in new forms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: So, collective change starts with the individual?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Absolutely. Every time one person confronts themselves, they break the chain. And that ripples outward. One woman who decides to stop self-sacrificing\u2014changes the way her children experience love. One person who breaks the family vow of poverty\u2014creates space for abundance for generations after. When individuals begin walking that path en masse, we experience a collective shift. That\u2019s why I believe inner work is the deepest form of social responsibility.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Lobbyists<\/strong>: Can we say that your work also has a social dimension?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Ana Rankovi\u0107<\/strong>: Not only does it have a social dimension\u2014it is its very core. My work doesn\u2019t just change the lives of the women who come to me. It transforms the relationships within their families, the way they raise their children, how they run their businesses, how they choose partners, how they relate to their bodies, money, and emotions. And that, in turn, changes the community. Through each individual who becomes more conscious, society becomes healthier. It\u2019s a chain of light. Ana is a therapist, coach, and mentor, and the founder of the Ana Rankovic Academy, whose mission is to help people break free from limitations and achieve their full potential. Through her work with clients, she focuses on healing emotional wounds, releasing inherited family patterns, and transforming limiting beliefs. 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Because every woman who breaks free from silence, submission, and inner sabotage\u2014changes the narrative that has been passed down in her family for generations. And that\u2019s why my work is not just therapeutic. It is also cultural, systemic, and, at its core\u2014political.
Because the deepest change begins in the place no one sees\u2014in what we believe we deserve. And in finally daring to believe: a different way is possible.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"